What stats show if a player is good at pvp or their mode? | Minecraft PVP

Posted by Never

05:10 PM - Aug/17/23

Have you ever been unable to tell if a player was lying about being good? Maybe you were trying to find a good bedwars teammate or you were trying to que doubles in duels. Regardless, it may be important for you to have a way to find out if someone is up to your level. Here are some stats you may be able to go by.


Where to look

Plancke.io is a well known site made by a member of the hypixel staff team using the official Hypixel Api. It updates player data regularly and includes many pre-calculated statistics.

Another option are overlays. This includes things like the bedwars overlay and abyss overlay. These specifically check stats of playres in your lobby, and aside from just checking kdr and w/l, they also usually include BBLR for bedwars (bed break to loss ratio).


What to look for

The best stats to go by for duels are usually kdr and w/l. These are kill death ratio, and win loss ratio, which signify how many kills per death they have and how many wins per loss. Currently, the average w/l in uhc duels is about 3 and the average w/l in sumo duels is around 1.5 ~ 2 (if they're not cheating).


In bedwars, the two stats to go by are FKDR and w/l. Fkdr is final kill death ratio, meaning how many finals per loss. The average fkdr is around 2 and the average w/l is around 0.6 right now. Generally having both a high w/l and fkdr is important, but if a player has a very high fkdr but a comparatively low w/l ratio, they might have bad gamesense, or are just cheating but still losing. On the other hand, if they have a high w/l but low fkdr it can mean that they usually play passively and get emeralds very early. If they have high w/l but low fkdr in doubles, it might mean that they usually get carried, and don't know how to pvp themselves.


Some players may believe that titles determine whether a player is good or not. However, titles like "Bridge Ascended", "Uhc Godliked III", and "[✫1784] Bedwars star" only take into account the number of wins a player has. Of course, you would expect that after playing hundreds of thousands of games, any player would have reached a high level, but actually people who take breaks often improve faster than grinders. You may notice that players like B0mbies or Dewier have much higher stats than bedwars players who are at the top of the star leaderboard, and this is mainly due to the fact that people who specifically aim to grind levels may oftentimes sacrifice playing "correctly" or to the best of their abilities, for taking many small risks that might cause them to lose 10% of their games, but will save them almost twice as much time. There are many speedrunning strategies that may save lots of time, but can easily be countered by the existence of just one other good player. Also, streak and stat snipers often choose to snipe players with actually good stats (who may be on new accounts) or players with long streaks instead of random high star players because they actually have stats on the line, whereas high star players have only above average stats, and enough padding (total games played) that their stats won't change much even if get sniped 20 games in a row.


Regardless, these stats may only somewhat give you an idea of someone's skill level. There are many specific cases where stats may not tell their true skill level. Below, I will list a few common ones.


Special Cases

The most common case where a player is better than their stats make them out to be, is when they have played on the server for a long time, and lost many games at first, but improved greatly throughout the years. After losing many games, it can be hard to bring their fkdr back up without playing exponentially more games, and not losing any of them. However, some of these players choose to start a new account, which leads into the next type.


Some players who have old accounts but may have improved may choose to buy a new account and play games on it to get up to date stats that match their true skill level. Others may have come from another minecraft server. However, the first 200 - 300 games on every account are usually easier, and will be matched against another new accounts. Therefore, sometimes a player who appears to have high stats on a new account may also not be as good as they seem. Generally, a good amount of games to have played on an account is 500 - 1000 games, where the statistics will have become more stable (and less influenced by the first 200 easy games). On the contrary, games in gamemodes like specific duels and skywars may actually be harder than they usually are, because usually new players will not play hard duels like uhc, megawalls, and other random duels, leaving those modes to be infested with good players on new accounts. Skywars on the other hand may be harder because it is full of cheaters who bhop and scaffold while using killaura, and get banned within 200 games (but not before playing at least around 150 games). Therefore instead of skywars being noob queue, it is more like cheater queue.


Another case is when people buy or sell accounts. Some accounts may have misleadingly high stats while the player is actually new or subpar, because it may have been a bought account. Sometimes players with good stats will sell their account or pass it on to their younger brother, which can result in players being much worse than what their stats show.


A rare case may be old accounts that have not played since the old times. This may cause their stats to be inflated higher than their skill level because the playerbase from a long time ago may have been much worse at the game, which made it easier to get good stats back then. One example of this is Technoblade, who used to have a 4.11 win loss ratio in skywars solo insane. As he evened out his stats in more recent years, his wlr decreased to 2.34 as skywars players have become slightly better at the game, and the quantity of good players has increased. Even so, Technoblade can still be considered one of the greatest skywars players, even though his playstyle didn't make him appear like it.


Conclusion

The most important thing to note, is that stats are only numbers that average the accomplishments of a player to sort of make out their skill "level". In reality, the best way to see if a player is good is to 1v1 them in that specific mode, or watch their gameplay (from their perspective). For example, a player might be really good at bridge fights and fireball jumps, but they might have no idea how to use invis or what to spend emeralds on. Although they may have a bad win loss ratio (which inevitably leads to a low fkdr), they cannot be considered entirely "bad at bedwars". Some players are simply missing one small aspect that could make their gameplay perfect, or they could have some mechanical problem inhibiting them from reaching the next level, like a mouse that can't drag click or butterfly click or a mouse with no side mouse button. Some people might even have massive input delay on their computers (or a monitor that causes delay). Therefore, the best way to truly find out if someone is good, is to actually duel them or watch them in their own mode.